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CAMERON:
The ballot's on Monday and I think that's where we have our focus.
KOCH:
Do you think he'll run?
CAMERON:
I would encourage him to run. I'll certainly be encouraging Kevin to run. I think he's our best opportunity to defeat Tony Abbott. He's our best opportunity to make sure we don't get WorkChoices back and that we do continue progressive Government in this country.
DOYLE:
David, should he run? And is he just creating more problems if he does, or if doesn't?
BRADBURY:
Well look, I think that this matter is going to come to a head and it's appropriate that that be the case. This needs to be resolved. I think most people around the country want this to be resolved as soon as possible and I think that's what will happen on Monday.
KOCH:
Why will you back Julia Gillard? Your electorate – we had Seven News cameras out there yesterday overwhelmingly in support of Kevin Rudd. Why would you ignore them?
BRADBURY:
I've been representing my community for 13 years now and I'm a very open, consultative member. I've got to say that in the time that I've been representing my community, one thing that comes home very strongly to me is that in the end, what counts is that you get the job done. Julia Gillard, whatever you think about her, she is a leader who is getting the job done, whether it's putting a price on carbon, the mining tax, rolling out the NBN. And she has a plan for the future. She is a leader that will get the job done, whether it's the disability insurance scheme or tackling education reform, which so many people in my community think needs to be tackled.
DOYLE:
Well in what is sounding like an election platform already, Kevin Rudd is saying that he has plans for the future, he's also speaking a lot about trust and confidence, that they are everything in politics. Let's just have a little listen.
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DOYLE:
Doug, do you think the Prime Minister, the current Prime Minister, has the trust and confidence of the Australian people?
CAMERON:
I think the situation is that Kevin Rudd has got the confidence of the Australian people. I think that Kevin Rudd was badly done by in 2010. At the time, I argued that we shouldn't change leader. I argued that we would pay a price. I don't take any joy in saying that I was right. I would say Julia Gillard – a fantastic politician, she had the political world at her feet and I think she made a mistake doing what she did at that time. I think she's paying a price for that and I think the public have always looked quite aghast at what happened that night.
KOCH:
David Bradbury, some of your colleagues are saying they would rather lose their seat than have Kevin Rudd as leader. Are you in that camp?
BRADBURY:
Oh look, I want to win my seat, I want to be part of a Labor Government. Can I just say that one of the comments that Doug made, and I think a focus of this discussion, as far as I can see, is a lot of it is about what happened 20 months ago. I think the question at hand is actually about the future of this country and who is best able to lead it.
KOCH:
Well it's about now and you're going to get decimated at the next election on current opinion polls. You're going to get slaughtered.
BRADBURY:
If we allow, if what the Australian people are saying is that they want leaders who are going to be dictated to by week-to-week polls – in fact we get polls several times a week –
KOCH:
By the people.
BRADBURY:
Does anyone in this country seriously believe they are going to get good, strong Government that makes hard decisions for the future of this country by listening to multiple opinion polls every week? In fact since I've been in politics, one of the biggest criticisms I get is that people say the problem with you politicians is that you're too motivated by trying to pander to the latest opinion poll. I think it's important that we have strong leadership.
CAMERON:
This is not about opinion polls, this is about the future of the Labor Party. This is about whether the Labor Party can actually win the next election. I don't want to just be competitive at the next election, I want to win the next election and I think Kevin Rudd has the best capacity, the best chance to take Tony Abbott on. Remember it was game on – well the game's been on but there's only been one person on the field and that's Tony Abbott.
KOCH:
Okay.
DOYLE:
Alright, ten O'clock Monday morning. Thank you very much both of you for joining us.