12 August 2005

Doorstop Interview, Malvern Town Hall, Malvern

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SUBJECTS: Telstra, interest rates, Senator McGauran, Mr Stephen Vizard

JOURNALIST:

On Telstra, given their poor outlook and their share price fall and given that you have previously said that it wouldn’t be worth selling Telstra below $5, do you still think it is still worth selling at these levels?

TREASURER:

Look, in relation to Telstra first its ownership has to be resolved, secondly if legislation passes to allow us to resolve the ownership question in relation to Telstra the Government will make a decision based on the commercial outcome. We have always said that we would get a commercial outcome to protect taxpayers so, there are really three steps in this, resolve the question of ownership, pass the legislation and then the final step is the commercial one.

JOURNALIST:

Sol Trujillo has asked for the Government to throw in some money for investment in the bush. Is the Government going to do that?

TREASURER:

Look, various proposals are put by various people. There are various people in Parliament who put proposals, there are various people outside of Parliament who put proposals. So at the end of the day the Government will decide these issues after considering all of the different options that are put to us and I wouldn’t elevate any one more than any other.

JOURNALIST:

Back to Telstra, how soon are you to making some kind of a decision?

TREASURER:

Well the Government has decided that we have to resolve the ownership. We can’t have a half privatised - half nationalised company…

JOURNALIST:

So how close…

TREASURER:

…so I don’t think anybody has got a plan to re-nationalise Telstra so what that means is eventually you have got to allow Telstra to operate with a clear ownership structure. That is what the Government’s view is. Secondly, you would have to pass legislation, has to pass through the House of Representatives and the Senate. Obviously that is something that we will be looking at over forthcoming months. And the third thing is, after you have passed legislation then you get down to making sure you take the right commercial decisions on behalf of the Australian public.

JOURNALIST:Is it unrealistic for Sol Trujillo to expect the Government to contribute all of the $5 billion he says he needs to upgrade rural networks?

TREASURER:

Well, I don’t think he has said that. Telstra will put various proposals to the Government, Senators put proposals to the Government, Backbenchers put proposals to the Government, financial market analysts put proposals to the Government. What the Government will do is it will consider all of the material that is put to it but it will decide what is in the interests of taxpayers. That is all we will do.

JOURNALIST:

At a time of record profits, should taxpayers be chipping in more money to Telstra?

TREASURER:

Well look, I don’t know whose proposal you are talking about but if you want to know about what Mr Trujillo says, you had better go and ask him, don’t ask me.

JOURNALIST:

What about regulating the other telco providers in the same way as you did Telstra?

TREASURER:

Well, Telstra is subject to provisions which require it to be competitive. That is because it was a market monopoly, it still is a very large player in the market and if you want to have genuine competition against a monopoly or near monopoly you have to ensure that it is competitive. That is why we have provisions to allow other competitors to get into the market.

JOURNALIST:

(Inaudible)?

TREASURER:

Well then there are community service obligations which Telstra is actually paid to perform.

JOURNALIST:

Can I just ask you about, Ian Macfarlane has told a Parliamentary Committee this morning that there is an even chance that interest rates will rise or fall and that there is no longer more than a 50 per cent possibility of an interest rate rise, what is your reaction to that?

TREASURER:

Well, we think that the Australian economy is continuing to grow. It is growing in a stable and solid way with inflation low. Provided we keep inflation low between 2 and 3 per cent – at the moment it is well within that band – we can keep interest rates low. But the trick here is to keep inflation low. The demands are to continue to run strong economic policy. The importance is to continue on with reform because if Australia gives away economic reform, if it gives away low inflation it would give away low interest rates and that is what we are focussed on.

JOURNALIST:

Senator McGauran’s gesture in Parliament, the Prime Minister has described it as unacceptable behaviour this morning, would you agree with that?

TREASURER:

Well, I don’t think you should make rude gestures in Parliament or anywhere else for that matter and I don’t think it is the right thing to do in Parliament or on the street. Whether or not that was a rude gesture, I think he thinks he was counting, doesn’t he?

JOURNALIST:

Treasurer, did you make any contact with the Australian Securities and Investment Commission over the Vizard matter?

TREASURER:

Well, I spoke to the ASIC in the course of their investigations when they gave me a report on what they were doing, yes.

JOURNALIST:

But in relation to whether they should do via the criminal route or the…?

TREASURER:

No, that is a matter for them, that is a matter for them.

JOURNALIST:

Treasurer, would you consider a sale of Telstra shares below $5 a share a commercial outcome for Australian taxpayers?

TREASURER:

Look, at the moment you can’t sell any shares because there is no legislation enabling it. If you have got the legislation enabling it you would have to look at market conditions at the time but you can’t sell any at the moment. Okay thanks.